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Is agnosticism a religion or a belief, or both?

from: Roger

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My place of employment has just informed its employees of religious faiths that they are allowed to take 2 days off with pay to worship.Being an agnostic, I am looked at as not being a credited religion. My question is, is agnosticism a religion or a belief,or both?

The Patriarch replies:


You are probably not going to like the greater part of this reply, but so be it.

With respect to your specific question - Is agnosticism a religion or a belief, or both? - the answer is no. Agnosticism is not a religion, it is a position on the existence of a deity. Agnosticism is not a belief, rather it is a position about what we know.

Now I'm going into areas beyond your question.

Unlike agnosticism in general, The Universal Church Triumphant of the Apathetic Agnostic which is a specific organization) is considered a religion. My authority for that is Melton's Encyclopedia of American Religion, in which we are listed. I found this out when I was recently asked to update our entry, though I don't know how we got in there in the first place. However, it is a recognized authority.

So, if you are a member of this church, then you are a member of a religion.


... your employer is giving time off with pay so followers of various religions can worship. This church has no days where its members are required to worship or to follow any particular rituals. (This is something your employer can easily verify with a visit to this web site - without even stumbling upon this article.)

Suppose one of your fellow employees who happened to be Russian or Ukranian Orthodox requested two days off to celebrate Russian Christmas. If that person, instead of going to church services chose to take a skiing holiday, it would be stealing from your employer. After all, the skiing holiday could have been taken over regular Christmas, when regular Christians were supposed to be at Christmas worship. And you had those days off too. Dedicated Christians did not have those days free - they went to church and worshipped.

You might not consider this fair, but that's life. As far as I am concerned this is a moral issue. If the days off are for worship, we do not qualify.

Perhaps you disagree. If so, then I suggest that if you demand those two days off from your employer, that you be prepared to do something directly related to agnosticism - not just as a casual observer, but as an active part of the process. For example... Want to take Darwin day off? Then get involved with organizing the events of Darwin Day. Invite your boss to come and see what you are doing. Live up to your employer's intention in providing the days off.

Believers claim that without God, there is no morality. Please, do not provide support for that viewpoint.