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Ordination of Gays and Lesbians

from Philip van Bergen

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As a newly ordained minister of the Church of the Apathetic Agnostic, I wish to enquire as to your view on the ordination of Gay Priests or Priestesses within the Apathetic Agnostic church.

As far as I can see, if our stated creed maintans that we cannot prove or disprove the existence of God, then the concept of a sin against God is meaningless and it all boils down to personal prejudice. However, being an 'organised' Church, there must be rules from the hierarchy.

The Patriarch replies:

As you know, having completed the form, sex and sexual preference are not questions on the application form. This is not because of some wishy-washy "don't ask, don't tell" policy. It is because I do not consider the question relevant to determing.whether or not a person should be ordained.

While I have no certain knowledge - because I have not asked - it is highly probable I have ordained a significant number of gays and lesbians, and bisexuals, and probably a few asexuals as well.

As far as sexual preferences are concerned, my view is that as long as any sexual activity takes place only between consenting adults,[1] I have no objection - even if it is an activity I personally would not get involved in, whether for reasons of taste or preference.

That said - we all have prejudices, some of which defy reason having been indelibly impressed in us at a tender age. So, I would not suggest a mandatory requirement for any of our clergy to conduct a ceremony they felt extremely uncomfortable about. However, I would expect them to make a best effort to find an alternate celebrant.


  1. ...and as great-aunt Mary was fond of saying, "Not in the street so as not to frighten the horses."